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- From: dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.pascal.delphi.misc
- Subject: Re: C++ with Zapp vs. Delphi
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:58:00 GMT
- Organization: Queen's University, Kingston
- Message-ID: <31042308.6029916@130.15.126.54>
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- sundial@primenet.com (Sundial Services) wrote:
-
- >In article <MiC+wg2yqXgC083yn@iaccess.za> vincer@iaccess.za (Vince Risi) writes:
- >
- >>> Nope. All you can progrom visually are GUI apps. You can't
- >>> for example you can't program an inventory or a payroll app.
- >>> Or a switching system. The only thing you can program visually
- >>> are dialog boxes. This hardly comes close to what visual programing
- >>> researchers mean by a visual programming enviroment.
- >
- >>Again this is not TRUE. Delphi supports non visual components
- >>to do more than dialog boxes. It supports a complete compiler that
- >>has 12 years of development behind it. You can compile as much non
- >>GUI application as you want. It does support DOS apps and Windows
- >>95 and Windows NT console apps.
- >
- >
- >Vince, "those who know not whereof they speak, should not speak, but they
- >will speak nonetheless. Therefore do not answer them, for such people also
- >require themselves to have the last word."
-
- I think the original defender of "visual programming" is mostly right.
- Delphi is a basically procedural language with mostly GUI visual
- addons. Yes, there are non-GUI components that are handled visually
- (so in that sense the complaint was wrong), but for the most part, if
- you were writing a program to do a lot of computation, you'd do the
- bulk of the work procedurally.
-
- If you check out comp.lang.visual, you'll find there are languages
- where this isn't true: most of the programming would be done
- visually. I don't think any of those have been particularly
- successful in a commercial sense, but I could be wrong.
-
- Duncan Murdoch
-